Sunday, January 18, 2009

"Double Taxation"

Inspired by the comments after the Death Taxes post, I checked a couple of sources about "double taxation". Although we use this term rather loosely, it actually refers to a very specific situation occurring when taxes are paid twice on the same source of income. There are only two solid examples of this.

The first example involves the taxation of dividends. A corporation earns profit which is taxed as income. If that corporation decides to pay a dividend to shareholders, the shareholder receiving the dividend must also pay tax on the dividend as income. The profits of the company are thus taxed twice- first as corporate income and secondly when paid to the owner despite being the exact same source of income. This is as if you picked up your paycheck at work net of taxes and then took it to the bank to cash. The bank then withheld even more taxes from your already shrunken check for the privalege of taking the money home from work.



The second example is when taxing jurisdictions overlap. You may have an investment in a foreign company for example. Your profit could be taxed in your home country as well as in the foreign country resulting in the exact same income being taxed twice. (There are reciprocol tax treaties between countries to avoid this).

Now, say you earn income from work and pay income tax on it. Then you take part of that after tax income and save it to buy a bond. The bond pays you interest which is then taxed as income when received. Is this a double-tax? Technically, it is not: the bond generated additional income which was then taxed, it was not the original income stream being taxed twice.

Income is not the only way to distribute the tax burden. "Consumption" taxes such as sales tax and gasoline taxes are taxing the consumption or spending of wealth rather than strictly income or earning of wealth. Imagine two people, each with an income of $10,000, but one has $1 million in municipal bonds yielding $50,000 per year in tax-free interest. They both pay tax on the $10,000 in income, but is their ability to pay the same? Will they consume the same amount of resources and public goods provided by tax dollars? For example, the wealthier person probably consumes more and has more to protect (in property at least) from invasion, so shouldn't they contribute more to the common defense? One way to help balance the inadequacy of income only taxation is to tax consumption through a sales tax or use tax (e.g. toll road). Spend or consume more and you pay more.

Another means of taxing progressively is to levy a tax on property. If you own a home, you pay property taxes. (If this post accomplishes nothing else, at least it completely disproves anyone who claims the rich don't pay taxes. If I had a nickel every time I heard heard someone say that... They may not pay enough in someone's opinion, but they certainly pay significant taxes.)

Should consumption and property taxes can be considered double-taxes? After all, you are buying something with income you already paid tax on; that would be taxing the same income twice. Honestly, I don't know where you draw the line here. One could accept this as double-taxation or one could argue that it is the purchase of something else which is being taxed, not the original income again.

Getting back to the estate tax, Misanthrope observantly pointed out that "if double-taxation is seen as a bad thing", then we should probably be supportive of getting rid of it wherever we get the chance. Perhaps double-taxation is not a "bad" thing though. When someone transfers a huge amount of wealth to another generation and that wealth was accumulated after paying income taxes (not universally true though), then there would be a double tax presumably. Is preventing dynasties a bad thing? If not, then double-taxation is not always bad.

You can clearly see that taxation principles are heavily ideological. Progressive vs regressive is at the core of the matter. In a broad sense, there are no right or wrong answers and it is all a matter of opinion. The more you think or dwell on tax implications, the more you peel off additional layers of nuance. And there are the endless unintended consequences of tax policy which we haven't even mentioned.

Frankly, I have come to accept the current complicated system because it generally works. Consider that despite all the taxes, whether income, consumption, property or death, the government only collects 15%* of all the goods and services produced in a year as tax. Personally, I tend to think of tax policy as a sort of philosophy. One thing I can guarantee though, is that you can't escape death or taxes.

*see comments below

7 comments:

  1. Where'd you get the "government only collects 15%" ... figure?

    According to wikipedia (my favorite source for most-likely-to-be-unbiased information),"List of countries by tax revenue as percentage of GDP", it's 27.3% ...

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  2. *I didn't include state and local; I should have. Federal revenue is about $2 trillion on a $14 trillion economy (measured by GDP). A quick google search found this which would indicate state and local collect another 9% for about 24% total. (I added the asterisk into the post to highlight this omission. Good catch, thanks.)

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  3. The U.S. is still very low on that Wikipedia list even at 24-27%...

    Two problems I see:(1) GDP is not equal to income in the normal sense and if I read that correctly, the number in the list would include corporate taxes etc., which are very high in the U.S. compared to some other countries listed above.

    Let's leave that aside for a second though. The general problem with this is what level of services you get for your taxes. Take Germany for example. The number typically quoted in a tax comparison would be without social security and health insurance (which is a private insurance payment in Germany). So that's pretty close to the U.S., where medicare/medicaid seems to be excluded. However, you do get for instance lower and higher education almost completely for free in Germany (some exceptions apply). If I add the college cost for my 3 kids in the U.S. to my tax, I get a pretty high percentage on my life income. Same goes for say, the fire brigade, at a lower percentage level. Where I live, they are not covered by the town taxes and rely on donations, in Germany they are free. There are probably some examples the other way round although I cannot think of any right now.

    So as usual, you cannot just compare prices for a service, you also have to compare the service level.

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  4. "Frankly, I have come to accept the current complicated system because it generally works."

    This has typically been my outlook, though I feel it creates a bias in my thinking. Simply because something works, maybe even works well, doesn't necessarily mean it could work better.

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  5. dorfl68-
    Thanks for the comment. Your point to view the taxes collected and spent in the context of what you get for them is important to highlight, so thank you.

    As I said in the post, this is subjective and open to opinion. "What level of service for your taxes" is open to interpretation. You may get more social services in Germany, but we get a giant military. Anyone is free to prioritize or value one more than the other, but the "price" in terms of taxes is still what the number is. I make no attempt to pass judgement on the quality of those services, that is for each of you to decide (I did allude that I personally accept it, but it is clear that is my opinion only and not meant to be a persuasive argument).

    (When I post on such topics, I am trying to bring context and facts to the discussion and not my personal assessment or value judgement on it, so please share your own thoughts everyone.)

    Just to touch on the GDP point, GDP is in fact a "national income account" and is conceptually equal to income. GDP is by definition "the total cost of all finished goods and services produced within the country" in the measurement period.

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  6. Another good post, Brett. Yep, double taxation refers to something rather specific, but I thought it applied to estate taxes too, because the wealth which is taxed at death was once income, which was presumably taxed. Perhaps there should be another phrase for that concept.

    I'm not a huge fan of the thinking that some should pay more because they may use more or need more from government. After all, we should all be treated equally by government. The reason taxes should be progressive is because the value of the marginal dollar is higher for the poor than it is for the rich, which makes it economically efficient. At least that's my understanding.

    There are problems with the use of GDP as a national income measure in this case. First, it includes production by illegal immigrants, whose income is generally not taxed. Second, it does not include production by nationals living abroad, whose income is still taxed. So, if one is to compare tax receipts with a national income figure, GNP serves better, I would think. In any case, the difference would be rather minimal to the figures given above.

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  7. Brett,

    completely agree that quality of service is subjective. BTW, I live in the U.S., just used Germany as an example.

    just discovered the blog, looking forward to good topics

    dorfl

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